Mr. Dj M.

It's almost a week ago that I managed to find a Pasen Touchmusic with 8gb. That was the one I was looking for, because 8gb was hard to find. If you search for the Teclast T39 or the Pasen, they are both extremely hard to find with more than 4 gb of memory.

I thought I would give it a try (I just bought three weeks ago a Mobiblu T10 4gb and that one goes to a friend of mine, so it shouldn't be a problem) and it should be better if I heared everyone here and on many other forums and see the hardware specs (that tell me it got a second chip from Wolfson).

I think it's great, the sound is great and more possibility's then the Rockchip Mobiblu T10. There are only two but's.
The screen of my Pasen Touchmusic is really bad. The viewing angle is very little and I have another problem with it. My screen is flickering. It's a bid like a filmed a screen, but it's more shacking and the "lines" are staying at the smae place. It could be something to do with the backlight or with the contrast, but the fact is that it's flickering.

It's hard to explain axactly, but it's going to be clearly visable if you have it one for a few minutes and the screen is warmed up. You can see it most clearly on the standard pic with the blue sky and the forrest, it's clearly visable then.

The Mobiblu screen is so much better, a very nice viewing angle, deeper and brighter collors and not the flickering problem....

I made two pictures, on of both players, where you can see the differentes in screen qaulity at the best viewing point of the player (which is much larger at the Mobiblu and hard to find on my Pasen) and two pics with paint where you can see what the viewing angle of the player is. That makes the really small angle of my Pasen clear because you see the lines are parallel to eachother.

Viewing angles
The viewing angle of the Mobiblu T10:


The viewing angle of my Pasen Touchmusic:


I manged to find which screen type the Pasen uses and that's type one.

Here are two pics of the players themselfs with playing Avatar.
The Mobiblu T10:


My Pasen Touchmusic:


I and SkySports like to know if you got that problem with flickering and we also like to know with which player your viewing angle can be compared. (Anyone who got a player that looks like the Teclast, I'd like to know more about the screen thing)
I hope you can help me out with this and I hope it's only my player or the batch! I couldn't expect the problem with my screen and I thought the screen of the Pasen would at least as good as the Mobiblu, a player that is cheaper and "just a Rockchip".

DimaMP4

Well, the difference is not so big anyway. I'd rather have a real "T39" than a cheap rockchip player.

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Mr. Dj M.

Isn't that big...

It is big! The viewing angle of the Mobiblu is much bigger as you can see in the pictures. If a viewing angle is parallel, there's almost only one angle you can view it right.

The amount of collor and angle doesn't botter me with playing music and I nearly don't watch pictures so that isn't also the problem, but I'm going to use it also for viewing movies and series. Then it is a problem that the angle is so small.

DimaMP4, do you also have this type of player and have you got the same problem(s) with it?

lhassall

Wow, very detailed post!

I've always thought the screen on my Teclast T39 had very poor viewing angles. In fact it looks like a portrait aspect ratio screen, that they're trying to use in a landscape ratio... Which might explain it.

The brightness varies so much from left to right that you can't view up close, so you have to hold at arms length and at a certain angle I haven't had a flickering problems though... Maybe just your files?

I would expect the Rockchip version to have an identical touch screen but obviously not

Mr. Dj M.

Thanks man , but if I understand you right you have the same viewing angle as I descriped with my Pasen player? (You also got screen type one?) The flickering of the screen is just my player I think, I also installed every screentype firmware, but it doesn't make any sence. I can't see any (real) differents in collor.

I think it's weird no one ever talked about the viewing angle before. It's as good as non visable on the reviews at youtube etc, so I never thought about this "problem" before. I can't understand why they used such a bad screen. I never seen so less viewing angle on a video player, so again never thought about this before.
At mp4nation.net you can see many reviews about players as they sell them also over there, he's alsway's so positive about some special new screen type (can't look op which because site is at the moment to slow and the product page wouldn't open...). But I don't think they used that in the Mobiblu. Can we conclude the Teclast T39 has such a bad screen if you compare it to the competition now and in the past or are there more players out of China with such low viewing angle?

How about the T29 for example? or the Pasen ITouch? or the other clone with the same case the Teclast and Pasen has, the Optimus Zeno. It looks like it's the same as the Mobiblu T10 but then with a smaller bettery of 680 mAh instead of 750 mAh that the Mobiblu has.

SkySports

Very Nice and detailed post,

Here is my best guess about the difference in screen quality.....
I do see a definate difference in the Mobiblu screen. But please remember that the Mobiblu is not built the same as Teclast specifications.... It is the cheaper rockchip T39R version. Nonetheless, it is possible that they ordered the cheaper T39R and then put a fantastic screen on the player from another factory, then made a custom firmware for it. A very good idea.

So much for all of HouseofDap's hot air about the rebrands ALWAYS being worse than the original brand. HaHaHa!!! What say you now Tomas?

Anyway, the Pasen is built to exactly the same specifications as the Wolfson/telechips Teclast T39, which is how the firmware is completely interchangeable between Pasen and Teclast. Unfortuneately, this means the Pasen must take the cloudier Teclast T39 screens as well.

Now all the other Teclasts ONDAs Pasen Itouch (vx858 clone), the screens are spot on (especially C260/C280)! No, the original spec T39s I have sold always have a cloudy screen in my opinion, but this is the trade off for a gen 1 touchscreen. The T39 touchscreen was released months before Apple ONDA and the others..... But it would be nice to pop a Apple Iphone GEN touchscreen on a dual core player, wouldn't it?

This is precisely why the C280 has always been my favorite Teclast player. It has the wolfson dual core sound, with a clear (non touch screen) hi res TFT style display. The only touch portion is on the buttons themselves (but still touch nonetheless), where the touch function is really needed. Once you get used to the heat induction buttons, you learn to love them. I still use my C280 much more often than my M6 SP, collecting dust in the corner.

Skysports

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00christian00

Since it has been posted here too,i'll answer here too.
The viewing angle is not that poor,i am posting a picture to proof it.This show the dead spot of your picture :


Also there is absolutely no flickering.

Mr. Dj M.

Jeb, posted it on three forums, and get the most responding over here.

Good to know the screen may not bounch or flicker, this is what mine does:
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You can see it the best at the first two seconds of the first movie and at the last two to three seconds at the second movie.

If I see your picture of yours it's better then mine, but still there's something between visability and viewing angle. Viewing angle is the angle you can watch it clearly without any real changes of the brightness and contrast, refering to the optimal angle.

This is how mine looks like now:





It'g good from the side and a little better than the Mobiblu, although it's at his optimal angle still not so good as the Mobiblu, but it was better if the angle of viewing was wide for the up and down movement, as they did with the Mobiblu screen.

Christian, can you make the pic of my Pasens viewing angle to what is has to be (keeping in mind that I talk about the viewing angle as I described!)?

00christian00

What's the difference between the picture I posted and the one you are asking?
I can't understand sorry :/

The viewing angle is clearly showed in my picture,as you can see your picture show that most colors became black,while in my picture they are still normal.
The only difference is that colors became more white,but this is true for all touchscreen devices more or less,and it's because of the light being reflected on the touchscreen layer.
Resistive touchscreen using glass film(like the iphone for example) are less affected by this behaviour but are much more expensive.
I watched the video,and i can't see anything strange,the flickering is present in all recording of screen,so I can't judge by it.
I could record my plasma and you'll see the flickering in it.

Mr. Dj M.

The one I'm asking is the one I made with paint, that shows the angle.

It's maybe because of the touchscreen, but the Mobiblu T10 doens't have that. The contrast is very good on that unit although it maybe a 2% to high, but with the latest firmware (that doesn't improve anything, I didn't had any problems with it, and doesn't add something to it) the contrast is sett to low and you get the white light indeed, but only that much as on your picture of the Touchmusic if you look from the right. (mobiblu screen is to the left more contrast, left lower (what the pasen has if you look it from above or under) and from above to under (how do you say that in correct English?) a great viewing agle what the Pasen tringing to have from the sides. That's only not as efficient and handy in using, bod oke that was the factories choice.

So if they make the firmware better and add more contrast it would be a whole lot better, but the screen has to be that good also and I can't believe they used an expensive screen in a Rockchip player!

Recording a screen gives indeed frames, but as I set in those seconds you don't see that because it's just a little bid out of focus. The movement of the pixels is over there not a record isue it's what you see if you have it in your hands. The flickering is hard to get and it's not always there only when the screen is good warmed up and you useing it for a hour or so.

I have contact with SkySports and he also agreed that that may not happen. He checked another player to and found the same contrast he didn't had with the first run players that have a better screen, so it's maybe part of a new screen type and wrong frimware, but I don't think it's possible to get is as good as the Mobiblu or your player.