Mr. Dj M.

Oke, thanks for your post.
1. The FLV, was it added on a firmware or not even at all? (it's not a big of a thing with me, but I'm curious)
2. The music order isn't fixed by that. It only repeat that map then, and I can't go to the next map. I still want to go to the next map but acording to the map structure and so also to our alphabet, not according to ehm no idea actually.
3. I see, indeed it is. Only in Chinese it's working, even in simplified Chinese it doesn't do anything. I think it's because it is an English/Chinese dictionairy (I hope you can use it also in the opposite way), but it isn't usefull for us (unless you can read Chinese and speak it) so that's not a problem annyway.

lhassall

I have been complaining about this completely un-acceptable bug for a long time

When you switch off, the player only remembers what file it was playing. When you restart, it plays the rest of that file, then the files after it the same directory, then the files before it in the same directory (pointless!), then it just jumps back to the first directory every f***ing time!

So you can't just listen to all your albums in sequence over the course of a few days (like the majority of users do). No, you have to constantly navigate to the one you wanted because it wants to play the same thing over and over!

If anyone on this forum can feed this back to Teclast I would be very greatful... Surely there are other users reporting this on their forums and asking for it to be fixed???

This is an outrageous bug that you wouldn't find in even a basic 1997 MP3 player, let alone an "advanced" 2007 player!!!!!!

Don't get me started on the other stupid bugs... Like the inconsistent EQ settings, which are either upside down, or work in reverse (negative numbers indicate an increase in level?!!??!). If they can't even be bothered to get this right...

How about the massive voltage spike through the headphones after the player has been connected by USB?

I fear all chinese players have cheap hardware, rushed software, and are released with virtually no testing at all. After a few months, support is non-existent... We've been waiting for this new firmware for about 6 months now so don't hold your breath!

Mr. Dj M.

Oke so this is indeed the firmware!

I recognise all the things you named, but the voltage peak isn't that big I think. Atleast I didn't managent that as big. Your can indeed hear a peak, but I think my headphones haven't got any problem with it. At least the Sennheiser CX300's not. (Yesterday arrived the pair of Teac headphones, so not completely tried everything.)

The weird thing with the EQ doesn't bother me, but indeed it's weird. The same as the Chinese/English dictionary that only works if you have it on Chinese language and the way the named the options to sett the speaker on/off and the volume limiter on/off.
Those things are all weird but not any problem the same as it doesn't play FLV, although it would be nice. There's only one real problem and that is this music order thing. All this isn't fixed with V1.30 and the only thing it adds is a real bug (when you go out of the video section at least 5 of the 10 times it freezes) and it adds one game. So I stay at the moment on V1.29.

I can't understand it either that no one talked about it. I think it's weird for a forum that used to be Teclast, but I can't find it anywhere else also. The same as the weird thing with the screen. I think we all need to talk about our things more, learn from other peoples experiences and in that way also help to increese products!
That's also one thing I like to see more, reviews with more comparing to other stuff. Because of that I also talked about the Mobiblu T10 and my old DHH-100. If you hear people comparing stuff you acn say much much more about a product, so let's help eachother and lett people around you help you with providing stuff to lay it next to eachother!

I'm going to try to get a pair of good Shure's for the reviewing of the Teac Ze-1000's and lay them next to the Sennheiser Cx-300's and the Kanon Md-52's. I'm going to use for that my new player, my old one and the T10 I sold to a friend.
Also I'm going to use my Dj booth and stick them all into my Gemini Fx-7000, to compare them to a really flat output to tell what all the headphones should sound like when you don't eq them and use a really "flat" sounds output.

lhassall

The problem is the most active members of this forum are not "users"... They just sell these players, so they only say good things about them and are not interested in talking about bugs or faults.

A few times I have posted about hardware and software problems, but other members are not interested or say the problems are not important! Only recently I've seen some honest comments from sellers saying they're sick of having to give money back to buyers for broken chinese players.

Chinese players used to have a price advantage over the Korean and American brands making them worth the risk and the faults. But now iPod/iRiver/iAudio/etc.. cost about the same as a T39, so the chinese need to drop prices or make a massive increase in quality and support if they want to sell to the west!!!

SkySports

lhassall,

I will agree with most of what you are saying here. But I think it is unfair to blame the sellers who have posted on this forum. If you recall, HouseofDap pulled the plug on all his T39s very early on, and refused to sell them anymore. Futuredaps (my store) actually made the world aware that some players had buttons in a different place. Both my suppliers and loyal customers told me to delete the post and keep my mouth shut, I didn't. Of course, after making this announcement to the world, it make it very difficult to sell these players. Also, on this very thread, Mr. Dj M. made me aware of a screen problem on the Pasen for the very first time. Even though 80% of my customers would not be able to tell the difference, it bothers him and it bothers me. Therefore, I pulled these problem players out of circulation (at expense to me once again). You are 100% percent correct about the support issue from China though.

And Of course sellers are users! I met one of the sellers in China and he was proudly showing the world a new model player he got. I am a proud owner of a C280. Also, most of the trusted sellers discussed on here don't just carry any player in their stores. Most of us only carry players that we like. I am sure you have seen some of the Hong Kong MP4 stores that carry 100 types of rockchip cheap player.

There are many threads on MP4 forums about finding great earphones at a great price. Well one of my best friends and I may have done it! We went all over Guandong province with a Meizu, Teclast, and Ipod sampling all the earphones we could find. How is this for being a USER.

As for not being honest about player faults.... My opinion is, a seller CANNOT bash an MP4 company for a particular model on a public forum. Who is to say that in 2 years one of these Chinese companies won't release the best DAP player in the world. It would be ashame to ruin this relationship over one model. I don't think a seller can do more than say, they don't particularly like one model over another one.

I have posted repeatedly that I like the C series Teclast better than the T series Teclast.... hint hint.
Most of my customers ignore my posts and buy a 1st run T39 anyway. Every customer that emails me for an opinion, I give them a total breakdown of each player I sell. Most of the time, my opinion stands for nothing anyway. I just sell the customer what they want.


Thanks......It is very refreshing to see some good opinions on here.

Skysports

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Mr. Dj M.

@lhassall: There maybe are quit a few sellers over here, but you wont see many people reviewing stuff and there are much members over here. Actually most of the active members are the ones that are involved with these kind of electronics and are because of that mostly sellers.

I think we need to get people more to this forum to tell about their products and I think your right about most sellers that they don't tell anything, but SkySports is not of that kind. He tells a lot about his experience with stuff and does much for it, as he also tolled in his post.

The reason why the T39 is almost the costs of a more famous brand (with less store space), is because it's got good hardware and quit expensive chip setts and it's not anymore produced for Teclast, maybe they are for Pasen but know idea. If you see the store of SkySports you see he first sold the 8gb T39 for 85 euro, the Pasen (that is ofcourse exactly the same) that came later to his store costed 99 euro.

I think your right about the software that can be better, but also the famous brands are not always 100% good with that. I don't say that's a reason to stop working on it and call it a day! no I think the have the responsebility
to make the firmware bug free, but it's their choise to add features or not.

The hardware is a special thing. No brand players are also sold here in stores, for example the toys stores. A big store as Mediamarkt sells them with a brand and they are most slightly better and not because of the hardware it's most because of the way they made the inside.
Most of these no brand players over here are stil the ones with the old Action chip and they are cheap to produce and to buy, but it's logical then you can expect a faster break down, defenately if it's a no brand because of the way they usually solderred it.
So that's why I don't buy these players, that there are still sellers.... I think that's their choise but they also have the problems with it if the players keep on breaking......

@SkySports: Yeah you said that to many times that the C series are better, but I like the design and the touchscreen of the T39 so much

So I'm not talking the problems good! I hope that the firmware will be bug free once. Their firmware version 1.30 is crapier than the 1.29 so I have still hope.

SkySports

I will say that he is correct about there being WAY too many sellers posting on here. And I also think there are more sellers than users posting lately. Its a BIG shame. There is actually a lot of pure spam coming onto this forum from these sellers.

Now, I will be quiet myself....... hehe

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lhassall

Yeah, didn't want to offend any members of the forum

I just hate my T39 so much and can't believe anyone actually likes it ...and mine's a 2nd generation Teclast model... I hate to think what the 1st generation products were like

Fitting expensive chips is nice, but if the circuit design and other components are poor, then there's no point. The amount of clicks, snaps, and crackles from my T39 suggests poor design or cost cutting shortcuts being made

Anyone else hear the news that Apple is moving away from Wolfson chips?

Mr. Dj M.

No, never heared that, but if it's so i know why, because of the price or is there another brand that makes better audio chips? never heard about that neither...

But you're talking about bad circuits etc.?! That isn't there with the T39, the only thing maybe is the lower refresing rate of the screen, the rest should be an software issue.
The T39 is just being said as a player with really good circuits, that's why some say it sounds better than a D2. The first run has (almost??) the same circuit, but it was not putted well in the body, that's why thing came loose.

@SkySports: Whaha, but don't mind otherwise we hadn't got your info
By the way could you give me some feedback on ebay?

SkySports

Yes I understand,

And beleive me, these negatives comments only HELP the industry as a whole. And don't think the people that can make a difference do not read this forum. Beleive me they read all the public forums! When someone wrote a horrible and honest review about the T39, it REALLY punched Teclast in the gut. I heard this review was copied and distributed to many other sites all over the internet, and was even translated into Chinese and then copied on the Chinese language pages. I heard that Teclast lost 10s of thousands of dollars because of this review. Many of the big overseas distributers refused to buy any T39 they had already built and the stores in China stopped stocking them, turning to T29 and C series instead. And this review was made by someone on a forum just like you, who also rightfully hates the T39.

It is true that the 1st and 2nd runs had terrible problems.... I had both branded and non branded T39 in the early days and the defect rate was much worse than other players I had ever sold. Many Many months later, I order the Pasen version and quality has improved drastically. Perhaps this BAD review had something to do with the quality improving, NO?

The point is, there are people saying terrible things about the terrible players, and I know first hand that the culprits are feeling it where it really hurts.

I cannot go into any detail about this to protect the privacy of everyone involved. But I hope this makes you feel a bit better. Negative comments help all of us tremendously!

Skysports

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