Games Download for TL29

F3l!x · 03-09-2007

hi
first sry for my english i am german

i wanted to ask if anyone knows a page where i can download some games for my t29.

thanks greetz felix

ahh sry its not tl29 but t29 of course^^

Darkstar · 03-11-2007

I dont think you can, games are in the firmware as I understand it. You might be able to code something, seems a lot of trouble tho.

F3l!x · 03-11-2007

hmm ok thanks

gelmut · 03-12-2007

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Originally Posted by Darkstar

I dont think you can, games are in the firmware as I understand it. You might be able to code something, seems a lot of trouble tho.

what do you mean code? theres a way to get more games on?

Darkstar · 03-12-2007

Code: The programed computer code that makes up the part of the firmware forming the game, including the settings and controls applicable to whatever language and format it is in.

Not get more games on. As far as I know were NOT dealing with a Java environment like a cell phone where you could install a game through a loading process.

These seem to work like the MP4 players (But are not compatible at firmware level or most others with the MP4 players), having a replaceable firmware file with the players OS and boot code on it. The base unit would be a computer with a boot loader running the firmware. (That is to say a tiny snippet of code that loads the firmware is placed in the on board flash chip of the unit allowing it to load the main firmware and run the unit.)

With the right tools you should be able to replace the stock game in the firmware. But I have yet to see a firmware editor for these players that dose more then allow editing the logo. If there is one its likely a factory tool and has yet to leak out.

You might be able to do it in a hex editor, but I wouldn't try it, your as likely going to BRICK the unit. You would need to understand the firmware code to know what you were doing, where the game file starts and ends, if its in more then one spot, where the settings are, what buttons it uses, screen type and rez. And it needs to fit in the space allotted for the stock game.
This means learning the code used in the player at a programmers level,
that might not be so hard depending on what you know now and what they use.

I would think you could rip the games from the firmware of other players using the same CPU, and mod them to work on these. If nothing else you would want to be sure the screen will fit right on the display and the buttons work right. Way to much work and trouble to get a new game on a player, and a simple game at that. Odds are your going to brick the player while trying it.

The other way is to simply build a new game by writing new code, if your doing that you might as well write a loader/editor. Again a number of limits would be imposed, some by your skills, others by the ability of the unit and the framework of the OS in the firmware. Again expect to brick the unit any number of times before you get it right.

gelmut · 03-12-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkstar

Code: The programed computer code that makes up the part of the firmware forming the game, including the settings and controls applicable to whatever language and format it is in.

Not get more games on. As far as I know were NOT dealing with a Java environment like a cell phone where you could install a game through a loading process.

These seem to work like the MP4 players (But are not compatible at firmware level or most others with the MP4 players), having a replaceable firmware file with the players OS and boot code on it. The base unit would be a computer with a boot loader running the firmware. (That is to say a tiny snippet of code that loads the firmware is placed in the on board flash chip of the unit allowing it to load the main firmware and run the unit.)

With the right tools you should be able to replace the stock game in the firmware. But I have yet to see a firmware editor for these players that dose more then allow editing the logo. If there is one its likely a factory tool and has yet to leak out.

You might be able to do it in a hex editor, but I wouldn't try it, your as likely going to BRICK the unit. You would need to understand the firmware code to know what you were doing, where the game file starts and ends, if its in more then one spot, where the settings are, what buttons it uses, screen type and rez. And it needs to fit in the space allotted for the stock game.
This means learning the code used in the player at a programmers level,
that might not be so hard depending on what you know now and what they use.

I would think you could rip the games from the firmware of other players using the same CPU, and mod them to work on these. If nothing else you would want to be sure the screen will fit right on the display and the buttons work right. Way to much work and trouble to get a new game on a player, and a simple game at that. Odds are your going to brick the player while trying it.

The other way is to simply build a new game by writing new code, if your doing that you might as well write a loader/editor. Again a number of limits would be imposed, some by your skills, others by the ability of the unit and the framework of the OS in the firmware. Again expect to brick the unit any number of times before you get it right.

hmmm i see... tnx that explained alot! well but still do you have any software that i can use to make new games in the firmware? or can you just please help me and tell me the steps of what i should or like what codes and where i should place the codes. please that will be alot of help from your side and there will be alot of ppl welcoming you for helping us. and again thanks alot!!!!

Darkstar · 03-12-2007

Let me play with the firmware file a bit and see what I think.

Well this looks like fun, the files compressed. Let me see if I find utility to unpack it. Odds are its noted in Chinese, and I don't speak it.

gelmut · 03-13-2007

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Originally Posted by Darkstar

Let me play with the firmware file a bit and see what I think.

Well this looks like fun, the files compressed. Let me see if I find utility to unpack it. Odds are its noted in Chinese, and I don't speak it.

so are you gonna be able to check like if its posible to get on some games and if u will get them on yourself that will be totally awesome!!!!!!!!1 ur like the boss dude!!! and if u wont be able to do it can u find some1 who speeches chinesse? and if you wont find any1 then can u plz tell me how to get there myself, then i will download some software that will translate!!!! and again tnx alot!!!!!!!!!

Darkstar · 03-13-2007

I happened to think of a way that might work, but its got more ifs in it then Windows has bugs. I'm looking to see how big a pain it would be to replace the stock game with another.

gelmut · 03-13-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkstar

I happened to think of a way that might work, but its got more ifs in it then Windows has bugs. I'm looking to see how big a pain it would be to replace the stock game with another.

TNX thats alot of help here!!! and if it will work, can you teach me some of this stuff? 'cause ur a professional!!!! or can you tell me how u do this kind of stuff right now? 'cause i kinda cant wait,lol THIS IS SO COOL! TNX prof!