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Old 09-10-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Wolfson 8750

Hi, has anybody used both types of Teclast players with Wolfson audio chipset (like C280) and the those without it (like C260) before?

Does the presence of the audio chipset enhance the audio quality by a significant amount, or add any sort of additional aural features such as 3D sound, enhance bass response etc...?

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of course thats what its there for
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Yes you can tell theres a difference with the Wolfson chipset added.

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Hi, has anybody used both types of Teclast players with Wolfson audio chipset (like C280) and the those without it (like C260) before?

Does the presence of the audio chipset enhance the audio quality by a significant amount, or add any sort of additional aural features such as 3D sound, enhance bass response etc...?

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its better then rock chip cuz wolfsens made in europe therefore they dont massproduce like chinas rockchip so theres less out there wich means more quality
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Are you the MyMpxPlayer member who is looking for a rockchip device?... if it is so your are in the right place... the best rockchip is a Teclast due to the wonderful support that this brand is bringing to that good chip.



Your question deserves a more complete answer... so I want to know as DarkRay if Wolfson in C280, or other Wolfson device, is adding just a better sound... and some extra function in the firmware? like it is bass or treble boost, or 3D or any other sound enhancement.
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Hi DaremoS, yup this is the same DarkRay

I am currently shopping for 2 or more players, one as a birthday gift for my sister, and one for myself. Unfortunately, detailed reviews of Rockchip based players are far and in-between and those I found on Chinese websites are kind of generic (I am Singaporean Chinese and can read Chinese, so language's not a problem). Apparently, some reviews even got the features wrong (paid advertorial?).

I would certainly think that the Wolfson 8750 chip will enhance the sound as well, but would like to know more about what specific enchancements it adds? Darkstar mentioned that there's a difference, but what sort of difference? I also understand that it is a UK-design chip and unlike the Chinese designed Rockchip, it is not as mass produced, although they are often used together in conjunction.

From what I notice, a lot of the better designed player do incorporate the Wolfson 8750 chipset and so it definitely must do something other than just contributing to better hype marketing. Both the Teclast C290 and Onda VX868 which has nice 2.8" LCDs have the Wolfson 8750 chipset, although the ARM-based Telechip 8200 on the former should make it more powerful with more potential for future enhancements, at least processor wise.

I hope I do not come across as sounding difficult, but rather as a really interested shoper who would just like to learn more about them before committing to a purchase. Some reviews of comparison between Telcast C260 and C280 I had came across seemed to suggest that the audio quality difference between them is not as great as its made out to be, but again, they skipped on what's the difference (better base response, frequency response, etc...)?

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Smile Rockchip Vs. Wolfson

Hello,

I think there is much bigger difference between a dual core and single core player, than comparing single wolfson or single rockchip. Most of the Teclast Wolfson players are dual core (wolfson + telechips), and therefore have extra processing power for more sound effects. Most of the Rockchip players, only have a single EQ to tweak the sound.

So in addition to the improved sound between Rockchip and Wolfson, you also get additional 3D sound effects and accelerators with the Wolfson+Telechips,

Or in the case of the C280 -> Wolfson + Rockchip, the best of both worlds.

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Hi SkySports! That make sense. Thanks for your reply!
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DarkRay...

There is two combinations Rockchip + Wolfson (C280) and Telechips + Wolfson (T29, T39 and C290)... it's clear that for Teclast engineers Wolfson delivers better sound than pure Rockchip.
I assume that in C280, being a Rockchip controlled, there is no extra option in menu the get the best of Wolfson chip
Are this options in menus of Telechips controlled devices?
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As an audiophile, I will just like to clarify something.

The "dual-core" used by Teclast is a misnomer. The Wolfson chip is in no way a processing chip itself. Its simply a dedicated DAC (Digital to Audio Converter) that converts your digital data (MP3s in the form of 1010100011 for example) to analog data (the audio signal). Its not a true dual core like what you will find on a Intel Core 2 Duo or an AMD Phenom.

The reason why players with Wolfson chips sound better than those with just Rockchips is that rockchip players utilize their built in DAC while the Wolfson chip is a discrete DAC. Discrete means that it is a separate chip on the PCB. In simple terms this would mean better sound due to better power supply and less electromagnetic inference.

Before I end, I would like to point out that Wolfson is by no means the best DAC maker out there. Cirrus Logic and AKM of Japan are two companies that make arguably better DACs.
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